Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. Then pray for all of us. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. And I just asked the Holy Spirit to show me You have to show me You have to show me whats going on. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. And while youre at it, Id really appreciate it if youd help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. Very interesting discussion. Ive listened to the entire recording. Thats right. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. And I stopped my car. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. And that was a big question. The elder board is still in the dark. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. And I want to help people lead the church well. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. That way youll never miss an episode. You cant unconditionally support anybody. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. Just saying a lot of vile things. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. Still. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. @jamesmacdonald. I was at work. . And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Patient, kind, not self-seeking. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. I stepped into a conference room. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. I shouldnt be doing this. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Hes a large imposing man. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. Like, I cant believe this. I wasnt looking forward to that. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. And I checked my voicemail. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. (Proverbs 27:12). Hi. Understandable. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yeah, there were a number of people. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. And there is one thing we know about Satan. But so much else not owned. Im Julie Roys. Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. No, it wasnt edited. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. Great! Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. Great! But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. 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We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Yeah Cynthia. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? She gave it to me to get to the elders. Julie. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. Now what we did do is there were probably I dont remember the number Julie. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. So you werent part of the lawsuit. Had they reached all the elders at this point? Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. Hi. Search my early tweet history. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. Hes not qualified. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. Okay thats what Gods word says. Literally more than two dozen people. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. Im sad for his fall. And I remember a comment being made. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. We did not hurry. 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