http://thewartburgwatch.com/?s=Matt+chandler&x=0&y=0 John MacArthur was able to summarize Furtick as a minister with one word: unqualified. The problem: Elevation Church, led by Steven Furtick, suggests that an invitation to be baptized will be more effective if 15 volunteers are the first to move when the invitation is given. A point you also mentioned. No-one can find out what Pastor Stephen is paid, although it is decided by a committee of out of town pastors/advisors (who are probably on the same arrangement). You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! The southern baptist convention of which he has been a part has distanced themselves from his ministry in the past year. Thats hypocrisy, and no, that doesnt constitute name calling. Chandler only eventually took action as the wheels were about to fall off the Mars Hill bus and, sadly, only when great damage had already been done to the body of Christ. Because your worth it! LOL! He's got a long history as a respected evangelical theologian and preacher, but has made headlines more often in recent months for illegally flouting COVID-19 . I think it is a good thing that a church grows within a decade from a hundred to 20,000 people and I would love that to happen in Dundee, or Edinburgh. This has become an increasing generational divide, where self help and selfishness mixed with weird legalism has been manufactured, packaged, and sold as faith. I know of Alistair Begg from his Hamilton Baptist days but not much else. And this is my prayerful response (after sleeping on it!) Why would you equate Chandler with Furtick, but First is ok? This British website sets out clearly the Biblical gospel, compared to the ME gospel, in the context of evangelism. Anyone at least you have persuaded me to read the book I hope it is not a waste of good time! [18] He believes that scripture is inerrant and infallible because it is "the Word of God" and that God cannot lie. This is way more than urging caution, as you later suggested. You had already given your opinion about it before you had read it so you are being consistent at least. It is sometimes quite difficult to know how to answer you because of the way in which you misrepresent what is being said. ", "What is dispensationalism? 4) Your last post just uses ad hom and tries to dodge justifying your original statement about Chandler by attacking me and what I have said, whilst giving not one concrete example. This photo posted to Twitter by Phil Johnson shows a full sanctuary at Grace Church on Sunday, July 26, 2020. 3) Its not Furtick who will save the world from hate, crime, drugs etc. When you are ready argue about what is being said here, not what is not being said. Excellent post! If theyre charities (and I suspect many of them will be) then theyre monitored by OSCR, and will have to submit yearly, independently audited, accounts. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. Do they not see the danger of this? [31][32][33], MacArthur believes "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10:9). [6] During a 1979 interview, Pastor MacArthur stated he is "distantly related to General Douglas MacArthur." Furtick preaches a different gospel. One such person who has joined the ranks of GTY is Cameron Buettel, author . Period. Opinion Preston Clegg. John MacArthur is the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church, as well as an author, conference speaker, chancellor of The Master's University and Seminary, and featured teacher with the Grace to You media ministry. Can I assume that you are now withdrawing the remark about Matt Chandler not being a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived? Im sure with a church of such a size these issues are found amongst some, and appropriate discipline and loving correction are needed. For you to say that I did makes you guilty of the thing you wrongly accuse me of and it is quite reprehensible. On February 9, 1969, he was hired as the third and youngest pastor at the nondenominational Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California. Why shouldnt he? This is another attempt to pick a fight with another straw man. So issuing a challenge to either support them or decry them is meaningless. [2] He is currently the chancellor emeritus of The Master's University in Santa Clarita and The Master's Seminary. He has been the pastor of Grace Community Church, a non-denominational church in Sun Valley, California since February 9, 1969. It is quite shocking. I've carried one of these of an NAS with the New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs with me for years and years, so that's why I wanted this to be the first one. But anyone who writes on my blog and brings such serious accusations is going to have to provide evidence, and you will be challenged. Have mercy! Didnt appreciate the joking about drug use. Why is that disgraceful and totally unwarranted? So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. However, I was somewhat alarmed by the endorsement of Matt Chandler as a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived. To ignore its message is to snub that which the Holy Spirit inspired. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. John MacArthur - Jr. Church and Steven Furtick Jamie A 154 subscribers Subscribe 214K views 7 years ago Fun little clips I put together to give an example of what Dr. MacArthur was speaking on.. MacArthur 12 having been Jul 25, 2017 - Explore Rhonda Johnson's board "Elevation Church", followed . IMHO he totally manipulated the emotions of his audience and used the scriptures in an inappropriate way. Sorry David, we must be talking about different books. I know the drill. He has misgivings about Neo-Calvinism and he gave his reasons for those misgivings. They drift from church to church. An apologist and blogger is claiming that Matt Chandler's sermon was censored during a rebroadcast. John MacArthur, senior pastor of Grace Community Church in Los Angeles and founder of his ministry Grace to You, was one of the reported 4,000 pastors who preached last Sunday against. [9] In 1963, he was granted a Masters of Divinity from the Bible Institute of Los Angeles's new Talbot Theological Seminary, in La Mirada, California, with honors. Drawn from over fifty years of intense Bible study and regular expository teaching, John MacArthur's verse-by-verse study notes, book introductions, and articles display an unwavering commitment to interpretive precisionwith the goal of making God known through His Word. All I would say is that there was no irrational, ranting, preaching anywhere in it. all Christians are the same etc. You then accused me of muddying the waters by dropping in a bit of juicy gossip. You rightly speak out against the Scott McKennas of this world but you seem to have a blind spot where certain pastors are concerned. John Fea | February 10, 2023 1 Comment. Thanks again, Your email address will not be published. Each person will answer to God for themselves. As I trust that you would not deliberately bear false witness against me, can I ask that, in future, you read any comment very carefully before making such serious accusations? The biggest threat to the church comes not from fundamentalist atheists or those of another religion, it comes from within. It is not really a battle between science and the Bible. The remarks immediately following that statement seem to suggest that you are and illustrate the way in which you denigrate those with whom you disagree. For all who oppose success in serving Jesus Christ!!! An unknown man clad in black confronted Grace Community Church pastor John MacArthur during service on Sunday, Aug. av. And after 63 years of sacrificial kindness to our city, to be repeatedly threatened with court-ordered efforts to shut Grace Community Church down when no one is sick reveals an inexplicable preference for a mostly harmless virus over the life-enriching and necessary fellowship of the church., As for MacArthurs own battle against COVID-19, the 82-year-old pastor was absent from the pulpit on Dec. 27, 2020. Last year, when far-reaching government restrictions were put in place, the megachurch continued holding indoor worship services despite bans on such gatherings. Despite concern from church members, Grace Community Church has assured the public that MacArthur is recovering and doing better. Your reference to Isis was, in my opinion, ill-judged given recent events. From a spiritual standpoint its an even bigger (and opposite) no-brainer! Wendy Guay's friend, Lisa Ward, was a witness to an attempted abuse by Paul against herself and his own daughter back in 1979. Sadly The Lord will deal with him, and it will be very painful for him and his family. And this from a Scottish leader of an American megachurch wonderful stuff again , Pastor, Writer, Debater, Blogger, Scot, Dundonian, married to Annabel.with three grown up children and two grandchildren.View all posts by theweeflea. You can find the details here. "[18], MacArthur is a cessationist, holding that the "sign gifts" (such as prophecy) described in the Bible were temporarily granted to the apostles to authenticate the origin and truth of the scriptures, and that at the close of the Apostolic Age these gifts had served their purpose and ceased to be granted. And I wasnt using any of the debating society tricks of tu quoque and ad hominem in anything that I said. And they aint all wrong. If the cap fits.on the other hand if it doesnt then I accept your apology! Haters will hate This is a classic example of 1 Timothy 5:13 lq mk Timothy Nerozzi is a writer for Fox News Digital. He teaches a completely restored Israel shall inherit physical ownership of the land of Canaan on the earth. Lets put it this way- if you are buying a $1.8 million home you aint exactly of the take no purse school of ministry! The incident referred to was a very serious matter and Christian publications in th USA documented the churchs mishandling of it, which was why I had urged caution. I replied tongue in cheek and its unfortunate my smiley emo didnt indicate that. [3] MacArthur has written or edited more than 150 books, most notably the MacArthur Study Bible, which has sold more than one million copies, receiving a Gold Medallion Book Award. to this article here https://theweeflea.com/2020/04/22/return-to-elevation/). [36] Speaking about evolutionary theory, he writes that Christians "ought to expose such lies for what they are and oppose them vigorously." [16][17], Central to MacArthur's theology is a very high view of scripture (the 66 books of the Protestant Bible). [27][28][29], MacArthur describes himself as a "leaky dispensationalist. Pastor John MacArthur on Sunday commended GraceLife Church in Alberta, Canada, which is meeting in secret after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) barricaded their building behind three layers of chain link fence. As so often in the church, sex, money and power are the real problems for many because they are the idols of our hearts. Do you still endorse it? These views raised controversy within American evangelicalism and were challenged in print by non-lordship dispensationalist theologians Charles Ryrie and Zane C. Hodges, who argued that MacArthur's ministry was teaching a form of works-based salvation. Again as an author who is tempted to mention or quote from my couple of books in every sermon, I sympathise. It is an appalling rant already and Ive only read the first couple of chapters. Please check your information and try again or call us at 1-800-759-0700. John MacArthur is the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church, as well as an author, conference speaker, chancellor of The Master's University and Seminary, and featured teacher with the Grace to You media ministry. New Artificial Intelligence Program ChatGPT Generates Concern: A Liberal Bias? as there are with me. Last summer I had the privilege to attend and worship at an Acts 29 church plant in Shepherds Bush, and I pray that God would plant more churches like it across the UK. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. 'Changed My Whole Entire Being': Ex-Strip Club Owner Born Again, Now Works to Help Victims of Sex Trafficking, US Cracks Down, Bans TikTok on All Federal Phones. I would ask you to withdraw your remarks about legalism.posting serious allegations.refusing to substantiate them if you are in any way suggesting that I am such a person. Firstly in the teaching. You Wouldnt Be Dashing Him And Family And God House Stop being jealous Stop Counting The Heads In The Church And Start Counting Youre Blessing We Still Have A universe To Stand On And spreading the message good God And Getting People Ready For Whats About To Come..Btw Are You Ready For When God Comes? If I were like that I would have to discount the Church at Pentecost! Having said that I followed the mega church scene in the USA I was aware of what was going on in Dallas and in other places too. The elders had publicly disciplined a woman for refusing . MacArthur has written three books on the subject. In 1960, after a year off, he was accepted to the Free Methodist Churchs Los Angeles Pacific College, where in his senior year he observed two games of football, going on field once for one play (see 1962 yearbook statistics). It is the Bible watered down by a mixture of Waltonesque homespun wisdom, pop psychology, stand up comedy and an unhealthy doze of how to missiology. Weve been getting those kind of signals for the last number of weeks., A year ago, when county officials were trying for the fourth time to obtain a court order to shutter Grace Community Church, MacArthurissued his own declaration against the county, which he argued was impeding on his congregations free exercise of religion by criminalizing activity directly required by our faith. He went on to state the church has moral and religious obligations to continue allowing our congregants to gather in our sanctuary to worship the Lord., The utter unnecessary deprivation of all our people by completely shutting down the mutual love and care that sustains our people in all the exigencies, pressures, and challenges of life was cruel, he said. Have mercy! Legal Statement. Elevation Church were accused of getting 'volunteers' to come forward during the 'spontaneous' baptism services, in order to encourage others to get up out of their seats. I didnt even mention Chandler in my comment, let alone call him a false teacher (and have never done so). Are you happy with its $130 million campus rebuilding campaign? MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he reportedly said he felt ill. Name me one church that has handled everything well. Where is the blessed self-forgetfulness? I made no comment on how Matt Chandler lives as a Christian. [41] MacArthur compared the assertion that sexual orientation is a born trait to a hypothetical bank robber's protestation, "I keep robbing banks, but I'm a robber. [51] They have four children, fifteen grandchildren, and had two great-grandsons by 2017. No pastor should be above reproach, there should be no untouchables in the church; even Peter was rebuked by Paul when it was necessary. complete with standing ovation. To be really honest, I find it very difficult to muster up any Christian love for you when you respond to people in this way, though I do recognise that this is something I need Gods help with and forgiveness for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BN1lStbIw. Purpose doesnt have a parking spot is no substitute for many are the plans in a mans heart but it is the Lords purpose that prevails. He is currently the chancellor emeritus of The Master's University in . MacArthur is a strong proponent of expository preaching, and has been acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the most influential preachers of his time. They do things right. There is nothing more basic than these. 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I dont agree that its always wrong to mock (otherwise Elijah, Paul and Jesus were wrong), and indeed sometimes mockery has its place. Its only your perception and I would deny it. I know of individuals who actually talk openly about having a church!!! Chandler, a Reformed evangelical pastor, spoke as a guest speaker at Elevation last Friday, the third night of the Code Orange Revival. Stephen Furtick I just listened (lots of fast-forwarding) to a talk he gave at the New Spring church titled Sun Stand Still (which I think relates to one of his books). Your replies to G White were disgraceful and totally unwarranted, particularly in light of the respectful way he/she raised a perfectly justifiable concern. "[23][24], In 1983, MacArthur first published his belief in the doctrine of "incarnational sonship." Submitted by escamp on August 31, 2015 - 3:04pm. I am intrigued as to why you think my challenge to the claim is disgraceful and totally unwarranted, but you dont think the claim itself is? L.A. County has reportedly spent nearly $1 million in attorneys fees and other costs since the legal battle with Grace Community Church began. It is no improvement on, or explanation of, the Word of God. I'm a bank robber."[41]. G White this is the mega church you are setting up as an example in opposition to Matt Chandler? 2) Its also not advisable as someone who professes to be a Christian and follow Christ to swear. Googling information about his ministry will provide a number of discussions of his content. These John MacArthur reckless faith quotes will make your faith stronger. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images), Fox News Flash top headlines for January 3. The digressive discussion of church trappings in some ways diminishes the toxic nature of this actual ministry content its danger isnt in size or wealth or me focus, it is in the false gospel it promotes he is not qualified to preach. Despite the blurb you are not changing the world. For what its worth, I fully support your stand in almost everything else. Its always good to get correction! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vvjMUrPUfC4&app=desktop. I hear the anti christ will also be a great orator and just as charismatic. What is there to apologise for? Paragraph. I Gotta Reply This Is So Pathetic, First Of All As A Leader In Christ Steven Furtrick Is A Good Pastor And If You Really Heard His Message ,He Is A Man Of God And He Only Speaks The Truth You That Are Workers Of Iniquity Be Sure That Youre Sins Will Find You Out Second Of All How In The Hell You Gonna Sit Here And Judge A Man Of God ..I Believe God Called This Man To Build His ( God) House And Get The population Ready For Whats About To ComeAnd Its Far More Then Noah And A Flood.If There Were Many Pastors Like Steven Furtrick In This World There Wouldnt Be So Much Hate And Crime And Killing Drugs Etc News People Why Dont You Start Digging In The People That Are Really committing crimes Stop Digging In Something You Know Nothing About Cause If You Really Knew How God Works . John MacArthur, the pastor of California's Grace Community Church, delivers a sermon to his congregation, January 2021. Its a nasty wee trick to try and shut someone up by complaining that they always try and have the last word if they reply then of course you are proved right and can feel self-justified. As a preliminary observation, there is no name calling. Cho brought letters to the elders and MacArthur who ultimately told him he needed to "walk back" his findings if he wanted to remain an elder. John MacArthur was able to summarize Furtick as a minister with one word: unqualified. It is indeed a blessto have a fellowship with God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and indeed the Lord reigns. And lets talk about finance. Yea not Steve but the ones who bash or become busy bodies against him. I find this very revealing. Its just name calling which again results in self-justification and does not really contribute to any discussion. [19] He is one of the most prominent voices in American Christianity against the continuationist beliefs of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement, which assert that God continues to confer sign gifts today. I live maybe two hours from the Village and have visited twice. John MacArthur. John MacArthur is the pastor of Grace Community Church in SunValley, California, a neighborhood in Los Angeles. Your reply was typical of the kind of legalistic posts which I regularly get sent. They make their workers and volunteers sign a confidentiality arrangement that they will not disclose anything about the finances of the church, or they will be sued. You are just exporting your own. Its not the unadulterated Word of God for our generation. Our statement: pic.twitter.com/Rin5W7eA8x, Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) August 31, 2021. You then go to the other extreme and say that I am lumping every mega church together. Will you not come and revive us? I am happy though if you wish to withdraw your initial comments. But there is one criticism that I want to deal with in finishing. I hope this is mature and open enough for you! I think youve just answered your own question; how very sad. pokmon the series xyz. ON the other hand you seem to be very quick to hand out your tongue lashing arrogance and childishness. Ward's father, John Tucker, was also a member of the church who had been informed . [14] In 1986, he was made President of the new Master's Seminary. He concludes that he is far from the principles of the reformed faith in many ways and explains why he thinks that. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Mike no one is saying that a pastor should be poor. Is this success? The challenge (as you have already pointed out) is to warn and admonish from a place of love, and of course to pray. Rather than ignoring these churches and individuals Scotlands born again believers need to stand up and contend for the faith. In 1989, after some criticism, he defended his views in a plenary session of the annual convention of the Independent Fundamental Churches of America (IFCA). Your endorsement of Williams book which I have now read is indicative of that. And also trying to get to know what God says in His Word and please stop shouting at those you know nothing about. For me there is no doubt that some of Scotlands independent churches and ministries, need to be investigated re their finances..question is who does it? You accuse them of ad hominem remarks while making ad hominem remarks about them: you accuse them of defamation but feel at liberty to defame them. MacArthur also refused to enforce mask and social distancing guidelines for congregants. We stray from scripture at out peril: http://www.whatisthegospel.org.uk. I dont do stock answers. How John MacArthur loves the Bible but not his neighbor. I have no idea if you are particularly legalistic or not but the type of comments you were making, most certainly are. But cant we all recognize how difficult we find that? In the sermon above Stephen lets out a wee quip at the beginning when responding to some criticism go start your own church. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. Given that is neither what I wrote, nor what I think. I have not misrepresented what you said. Name calling really doesnt constitute argument does it? But in this instance let me assure you I am not mocking. "Many of you are praying for Pastor Johns health due to his absence from the pulpit during the second service. Use the Church Finder to locate churches with TMS alumni around the world. including starting the Church Growth Movement which gave life to the pragmatism movement which as we know is so ubiquitous. Whites equation of Chandler with Furtick being one such example, your comparison of Matt Chandler with Scott McKenna being another. Its mainly a forlorn appeal but can we say to the mega churches please stop it! Notify me of follow-up comments by email. "Just so you know, Pastor John had a bug this week and preached our first hour but asked if he might be able to take a break for the second hour. Los Angeles County sued the church over its refusal to close down, and the church counter-sued, claiming that the County was violating rights to freedom of religion. "[37], MacArthur is an outspoken critic of same-sex marriage, the ordination of women, the Roman Catholic Church, and the social justice movement. Opinion Page Brooks and David Bumgardner Then you will remember your evil ways and your wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images), Even as the pastor was sick, the church elder remained upbeat, adding, "Its pretty pretty amazing we have guys with sermons in their Bibles wherever you go and so Mikes going to be here.". Grace Community Church, home to pastor-teacher John MacArthur, is located in Sun Valley, California and has been faithfully proclaiming God's Word since 1956. We even had the background high pitched sentimental organ music towards the end as he told the (with a tear in his eye) the sad story of his dad, especially when he turned up to hear his son preach for 24 hours to mark the publication of his latest book. Given that you were speaking in the context of my remarks about Chandler, your comments were clearly a warning about him and a warning that his teaching was like a slow growing cancer. The Amazon website only has E S Williams book on sale as 30:08.! More a worry that this kind of thing will take deeper root here. John MacArthur is pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California. He picked out three words from Joshua 10, 12 (Sun stand still) and turned them into a doctrine, and he peppered his performance with occasional biblical quotes to back it up. Im afraid your post is a classic example of taking a bible verse out of context and using it, whether ignorantly or deliberately to defend sin. The preachers admission came amid news that Grace Community Church in Sun Valleyreceived an $800,000 settlement from Los Angeles County after defying pandemic-induced health orders. PS Im a huge Chandler fan over here. All rights reserved. When asked why he marketed his book (or to be more accurate why the church paid thousands to market his book), he was unapologetic, if he didnt believe the message he wouldnt market it. I might write a review later but the book is dreadful Mark Driscoll and Tim Keller, for example, are frequently careless and irreverent in the way they use Scripture. Really? Sums it all up. Uh, John MacArthur Is Urging His Church to Stop Supporting Religious Freedom . Not on Amazon it aint! We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. His church takes in $500,000 per weekcertainly it has given $10 million over a decade to other causes, but for a congregation which is taking in over $26 million a year, that is hardly sacrificial giving. But to me that is clear what it is. 4) Yes my point about the megachurches was that they were not per se bad. Ive only just seen the comments you wrote yesterday, Sunday, and again today. PPS. PS. Lumping every mega church together is not a healthy thing to do. [1] He has been the pastor of Grace Community Church, a non-denominational church in Sun Valley, California since February 9, 1969. Finally, I just checked my Amazon app and what do you know, the book I mentioned is still for sale at 3.50 and there are 8 copies left. David, you try very hard to always get the last word and I knew that the question you asked was loaded. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. It was neither juicy nor gossip. Its also a nasty wee trick to complain of someone remarks as being provocative, misleading and snide. Reiterating his stance on 1 Timothy 2:12, he went on to state, "There is no case that can be made biblically for a woman preacher. Cho resigned the next day. People make millions selling sex, playing sports and funny you never hear the news say that is wrong. 1. Truth in love is the biblical standardI didnt claim that you had claimed suchI just assumed that that was what you are doing. That would indeed be ridiculous, but it is not my position and it is therefore wrong of you to argue as though it were. 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