Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Have owned and shot most of them. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. Im about to order some more. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. Remarkable build quality. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. You can buy 1911s now. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. Built like a tank. You got to be a rookie. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. Note to self, Get to the range! It therefore must perform when called upon. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. Then I go to the LGS and shoot the guns myself, having sorted down to a handful that might meet my needs. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. No thanks. I laughed when I got to the CM40. Hellcat 380. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. To quote his expertise is laughable. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. I fell for the Pico hype. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Those were the worst. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. This gun is selling better than ever years later. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check No problems when used within its limits. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. A bunch. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. Get real. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. Really disappointed in how this was presented. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). One of the finest pocket guns out there. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. The thing stinks. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! People cant make crap up in their comments? Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. I like the concept at least. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. So special, they ride the short bus. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. The gun design has never worked well . In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. CM40 is my summe4 carry. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. I wouldnt bother to get that info from this site. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. As in best gun LOL. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. and wrote the entire line off. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. Stainless steel throughout the gun. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. I have two of the Picos. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. OMG! It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg But still, Im sure there are worse ones. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. Small, accurate and reliable. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. The CM9 is a great gun. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Also LCP. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. You can get these on line at times for Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. No I dont own one I own two. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. And surely have not shot one or very little. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. I like mine. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Yes it did. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Bottom line: you can do much better. There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). It would likely be more meaningful. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. And probably never fired one. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. Have you ever even shot one? How is this journalisim? How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. 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